Hi all,
I am a new gambit user. I am working through some scheme texts and gambit fits the bill nicely. I am curious as to how most folks develop in gambit. Do you use a terminal and text editor, emacs, or what? So far, I have been using terminal and kate, but it would be nice to have some integration. I was thinking along the lines of what a primitive ide provides where you edit your whatever.scm and then execute it or parts of it on demand from the editor.
I'm a vi guy, so I don't know much about emacs, but folks seem to like that environment, especially when it comes to lisp, et. al. If you're using emacs, and think that's the way to go, please give me a clue where to start. I can M-x run-scheme and it pulls up gambit in a scheme inferior mode (whatever that is) and it'll let me run gambit in the window, but that doesn't seem any more useful than doing it in terminal.
My current .emacs contains the single line: (load (expand-file-name "~/gambit.el"))
where the gambit.el file came from the source I used to build gambit.
If you don't think emacs is the way to go, what do you use? :).
Thanks,
Will
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On 7/25/23 22:52, Will Senn wrote:
Hi all,
I am a new gambit user. I am working through some scheme texts and gambit fits the bill nicely. I am curious as to how most folks develop in gambit. Do you use a terminal and text editor, emacs, or what? So far, I have been using terminal and kate, but it would be nice to have some integration. I was thinking along the lines of what a primitive ide provides where you edit your whatever.scm and then execute it or parts of it on demand from the editor.
I'm a vi guy, so I don't know much about emacs, but folks seem to like that environment, especially when it comes to lisp, et. al. If you're using emacs, and think that's the way to go, please give me a clue where to start. I can M-x run-scheme and it pulls up gambit in a scheme inferior mode (whatever that is) and it'll let me run gambit in the window, but that doesn't seem any more useful than doing it in terminal.
My current .emacs contains the single line: (load (expand-file-name "~/gambit.el"))
where the gambit.el file came from the source I used to build gambit.
If you don't think emacs is the way to go, what do you use? :).
Thanks,
Will
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Hi Will,
I use Doom Emacs with vi key bindings (and some Emacs bindings as well). I do not use the gambit.el package, just some terminals outside of Emacs. This works well for my use-case but I should maybe start using proper gambit.el integration...
Hi Will,
On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 10:52 PM Will Senn will.senn@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
I am a new gambit user. I am working through some scheme texts and gambit fits the bill nicely. I am curious as to how most folks develop in gambit. Do you use a terminal and text editor, emacs, or what? So far, I have been using terminal and kate, but it would be nice to have some integration. I was thinking along the lines of what a primitive ide provides where you edit your whatever.scm and then execute it or parts of it on demand from the editor.
Most of us use Emacs, I'd wager -- I know I do -- but a terminal and text editor is a perfectly cromulent, if cumbersome, way to develop in Scheme. In general, I've come to believe that Emacs is now a liability for the Lisp community, rather than a strength. By giving the impression that Emacs is a requirement, or darn near a requirement, to develop in Lisp, we risk alienating a large chunk of the base of potential new developers. Therefore I would strongly urge anyone interested in developing in Lisp (whether CL, Scheme, or otherwise) to do so, irrespective of whether they intend to learn Emacs; and for hackers on other editors to build out better Lisp tooling -- in particular, most new programmers these days use Visual Studio Code; we've got to meet them where they are and have better Scheme integration for VSCode.
I'm a vi guy, so I don't know much about emacs, but folks seem to like that environment, especially when it comes to lisp, et. al. If you're using emacs, and think that's the way to go, please give me a clue where to start. I can M-x run-scheme and it pulls up gambit in a scheme inferior mode (whatever that is) and it'll let me run gambit in the window, but that doesn't seem any more useful than doing it in terminal.
"Inferior" means Emacs starts and controls the Scheme process. In particular, Emacs can send whatever it likes to the Scheme process to be evaluated by Scheme.
The upshot of this is, if you have a running inferior scheme, there are keybindings in every scheme-mode buffer that let you push a chunk of that buffer (region, last sexpr, etc.) to the running inferior scheme. This alone is worth its weight in gold, because it makes things much faster than pasting into a terminal repl. Geiser gives you even more convenience. Say C-h f inferior-scheme-mode for more information (or C-h f geiser-mode once you install Geiser).
There's also Neovim with the conjure extension: https://github.com/Olical/conjure https://mailman.iro.umontreal.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gambit-list Hope that gives you options to think about.
--Jeff
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