Duke and maybe Jackson,
So https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=677709 says Ubuntu/Debian has had Gambit split up in four packages: gambc, libgambc4, libgambc4-dev, gambc-doc .
I don't see why this would be a low-demand package, except that for the reason that compiling it is so simple there's little to no reason to do it yourself :)
I essentially don't see why not exactly the same http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~gambit/download/gambit/v4.*/source/gambc-v4_*-d... http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~gambit/download/gambit/v4.7/source/gambc-v4_7_0-devel.tgz => Ubuntu package script as used with 4.2.8 wouldn't work with 4.7.0.
Was this done manually from scratch for each package update by the former maintainer and he left with the knowledge?
Since 4.2.8, nothing changed in how Gambit is linked or built, and essentially nothing changed with regard to configure script arguments.
Historically there was one single potential issue, which was that Gambit doesn't work smoothly with some GCC versions in the 4.2 and 4.3 series, though with all >= 4.6 all is fine, and I guess that's what Ubuntu uses nowadays anyhow, anyhow so consideration was needed on that point.
Anyhow to sum up from my end, my five cents to this conversation is that supposedly the packaging task is trivial.
Mikael
2015-02-19 5:12 GMT+05:30 Duke Normandin dukeofperl@ml1.net:
Would you mind emailing him and asking?
The only thing I can see would be if Gambit wouldn't be nice with the OS' bundled GCC version.
Could do!!
But I'm thinking that they don't want to go through the bother of putting a "package" together for software experiencing very little demand (in their mind).
-- Duke
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2015-02-19 5:21 GMT+05:30 Duke Normandin dukeofperl@ml1.net:
Would you mind emailing him and asking?
I just sent Jackson Doak of Ubuntu an email asking him if they would maintain the Gambit-C package, or whether the "maintainer" has to originate from the Gambit-C community. -- Duke
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2015-02-19 8:14 GMT+05:30 Duke Normandin dukeofperl@ml1.net:
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Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 13:38:04 +1100 From: Jackson Doak noskcaj@ubuntu.com To: Duke Normandin dukeofperl@ml1.net Subject: Re: Back with that Gambit-C issue
The maintainer can be from anywhere. The old packaging required the compile to be run twice, but i'm not sure if that's still needed. It's just a case of finding someone with the time. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=677709 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gambc/+bug/422034 are the bugs asking for adoption
On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Duke Normandin dukeofperl@ml1.net wrote:
Hey Jackson ...
The Gambit gurus are telling me that the software compiles with zero issues (for someone that knows what their doing I suppose).
Would that fact be enough to convince somebody at Ubuntu to maintain Gambit-C? Or does the maintainer *have* to come from the Gambit-C community?
-- Duke
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2015-02-19 8:14 GMT+05:30 Duke Normandin dukeofperl@ml1.net:
Begin forwarded message:
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 13:38:04 +1100 From: Jackson Doak noskcaj@ubuntu.com To: Duke Normandin dukeofperl@ml1.net Subject: Re: Back with that Gambit-C issue
The maintainer can be from anywhere. The old packaging required the compile to be run twice, but i'm not sure if that's still needed. It's just a case of finding someone with the time. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=677709 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gambc/+bug/422034 are the bugs asking for adoption
On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Duke Normandin dukeofperl@ml1.net wrote:
Hey Jackson ...
The Gambit gurus are telling me that the software compiles with zero issues (for someone that knows what their doing I suppose).
Would that fact be enough to convince somebody at Ubuntu to maintain Gambit-C? Or does the maintainer *have* to come from the Gambit-C community?
-- Duke
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I said it was difficult because of the old Packaging being writers. It might not be an issue anymore On 19 Feb 2015 19:54, "Mikael" mikael.rcv@gmail.com wrote:
Duke and maybe Jackson,
So https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=677709 says Ubuntu/Debian has had Gambit split up in four packages: gambc, libgambc4, libgambc4-dev, gambc-doc .
I don't see why this would be a low-demand package, except that for the reason that compiling it is so simple there's little to no reason to do it yourself :)
I essentially don't see why not exactly the same http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~gambit/download/gambit/v4.*/source/gambc-v4_*-d... http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~gambit/download/gambit/v4.7/source/gambc-v4_7_0-devel.tgz => Ubuntu package script as used with 4.2.8 wouldn't work with 4.7.0.
Was this done manually from scratch for each package update by the former maintainer and he left with the knowledge?
Since 4.2.8, nothing changed in how Gambit is linked or built, and essentially nothing changed with regard to configure script arguments.
Historically there was one single potential issue, which was that Gambit doesn't work smoothly with some GCC versions in the 4.2 and 4.3 series, though with all >= 4.6 all is fine, and I guess that's what Ubuntu uses nowadays anyhow, anyhow so consideration was needed on that point.
Anyhow to sum up from my end, my five cents to this conversation is that supposedly the packaging task is trivial.
Mikael
2015-02-19 5:12 GMT+05:30 Duke Normandin dukeofperl@ml1.net:
Would you mind emailing him and asking?
The only thing I can see would be if Gambit wouldn't be nice with the OS' bundled GCC version.
Could do!!
But I'm thinking that they don't want to go through the bother of putting a "package" together for software experiencing very little demand (in their mind).
-- Duke
<>
2015-02-19 5:21 GMT+05:30 Duke Normandin dukeofperl@ml1.net:
Would you mind emailing him and asking?
I just sent Jackson Doak of Ubuntu an email asking him if they would maintain the Gambit-C package, or whether the "maintainer" has to originate from the Gambit-C community. -- Duke
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2015-02-19 8:14 GMT+05:30 Duke Normandin dukeofperl@ml1.net:
Begin forwarded message:
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 13:38:04 +1100 From: Jackson Doak noskcaj@ubuntu.com To: Duke Normandin dukeofperl@ml1.net Subject: Re: Back with that Gambit-C issue
The maintainer can be from anywhere. The old packaging required the compile to be run twice, but i'm not sure if that's still needed. It's just a case of finding someone with the time. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=677709 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gambc/+bug/422034 are the bugs asking for adoption
On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Duke Normandin dukeofperl@ml1.net wrote:
Hey Jackson ...
The Gambit gurus are telling me that the software compiles with zero issues (for someone that knows what their doing I suppose).
Would that fact be enough to convince somebody at Ubuntu to maintain Gambit-C? Or does the maintainer *have* to come from the Gambit-C community?
-- Duke
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2015-02-19 8:14 GMT+05:30 Duke Normandin dukeofperl@ml1.net:
Begin forwarded message:
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 13:38:04 +1100 From: Jackson Doak noskcaj@ubuntu.com To: Duke Normandin dukeofperl@ml1.net Subject: Re: Back with that Gambit-C issue
The maintainer can be from anywhere. The old packaging required the compile to be run twice, but i'm not sure if that's still needed. It's just a case of finding someone with the time. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=677709 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gambc/+bug/422034 are the bugs asking for adoption
On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Duke Normandin dukeofperl@ml1.net wrote:
Hey Jackson ...
The Gambit gurus are telling me that the software compiles with zero issues (for someone that knows what their doing I suppose).
Would that fact be enough to convince somebody at Ubuntu to maintain Gambit-C? Or does the maintainer *have* to come from the Gambit-C community?
-- Duke
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Jackson, thanks for your response - wait, here, what's "writers"?
So by "old Packaging" you mean that since the days of the 4.2.8 package, Ubuntu changed packaging system?
Thanks!
2015-02-19 14:27 GMT+05:30 Jackson Doak noskcaj@ubuntu.com:
I said it was difficult because of the old Packaging being writers. It might not be an issue anymore On 19 Feb 2015 19:54, "Mikael" mikael.rcv@gmail.com wrote:
Duke and maybe Jackson,
So https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=677709 says Ubuntu/Debian has had Gambit split up in four packages: gambc, libgambc4, libgambc4-dev, gambc-doc .
I don't see why this would be a low-demand package, except that for the reason that compiling it is so simple there's little to no reason to do it yourself :)
I essentially don't see why not exactly the same http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~gambit/download/gambit/v4.*/source/gambc-v4_*-d... http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~gambit/download/gambit/v4.7/source/gambc-v4_7_0-devel.tgz => Ubuntu package script as used with 4.2.8 wouldn't work with 4.7.0.
Was this done manually from scratch for each package update by the former maintainer and he left with the knowledge?
Since 4.2.8, nothing changed in how Gambit is linked or built, and essentially nothing changed with regard to configure script arguments.
Historically there was one single potential issue, which was that Gambit doesn't work smoothly with some GCC versions in the 4.2 and 4.3 series, though with all >= 4.6 all is fine, and I guess that's what Ubuntu uses nowadays anyhow, anyhow so consideration was needed on that point.
Anyhow to sum up from my end, my five cents to this conversation is that supposedly the packaging task is trivial.
Mikael
2015-02-19 5:12 GMT+05:30 Duke Normandin dukeofperl@ml1.net:
Would you mind emailing him and asking?
The only thing I can see would be if Gambit wouldn't be nice with the OS' bundled GCC version.
Could do!!
But I'm thinking that they don't want to go through the bother of putting a "package" together for software experiencing very little demand (in their mind).
-- Duke
<>
2015-02-19 5:21 GMT+05:30 Duke Normandin dukeofperl@ml1.net:
Would you mind emailing him and asking?
I just sent Jackson Doak of Ubuntu an email asking him if they would maintain the Gambit-C package, or whether the "maintainer" has to originate from the Gambit-C community. -- Duke
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2015-02-19 8:14 GMT+05:30 Duke Normandin dukeofperl@ml1.net:
Begin forwarded message:
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 13:38:04 +1100 From: Jackson Doak noskcaj@ubuntu.com To: Duke Normandin dukeofperl@ml1.net Subject: Re: Back with that Gambit-C issue
The maintainer can be from anywhere. The old packaging required the compile to be run twice, but i'm not sure if that's still needed. It's just a case of finding someone with the time. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=677709 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gambc/+bug/422034 are the bugs asking for adoption
On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Duke Normandin dukeofperl@ml1.net wrote:
Hey Jackson ...
The Gambit gurus are telling me that the software compiles with zero issues (for someone that knows what their doing I suppose).
Would that fact be enough to convince somebody at Ubuntu to maintain Gambit-C? Or does the maintainer *have* to come from the Gambit-C community?
-- Duke
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2015-02-19 8:14 GMT+05:30 Duke Normandin dukeofperl@ml1.net:
Begin forwarded message:
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 13:38:04 +1100 From: Jackson Doak noskcaj@ubuntu.com To: Duke Normandin dukeofperl@ml1.net Subject: Re: Back with that Gambit-C issue
The maintainer can be from anywhere. The old packaging required the compile to be run twice, but i'm not sure if that's still needed. It's just a case of finding someone with the time. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=677709 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gambc/+bug/422034 are the bugs asking for adoption
On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Duke Normandin dukeofperl@ml1.net wrote:
Hey Jackson ...
The Gambit gurus are telling me that the software compiles with zero issues (for someone that knows what their doing I suppose).
Would that fact be enough to convince somebody at Ubuntu to maintain Gambit-C? Or does the maintainer *have* to come from the Gambit-C community?
-- Duke
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