Gambit-list Novembre 2018

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Gambit versus Python+GMP: Timing for Chudnovskys' algorithm for pi
by Bradley Lucier 07 Avr '22

07 Avr '22

Bakul Shah wrote a particularly elegant Scheme program for Chudnovskys' algorithm for pi based on the Common Lisp program here: https://bitbucket.org/tarballs_are_good/numericl/src/5fe8fe7089f48ab1c8a388… Nick Craig-Wood wrote a Python program using the GMP multiprecision library that appears to use exactly the same algorithm here: http://www.craig-wood.com/nick/articles/pi-chudnovsky/ I modified both programs a bit and include them here. They time the calculation of $10^n$ digits of pi for $n=1,2,3,4,5,6,7$. The results are heine:~/programs/gambiteer/gambit> !py python pi_chudnovsky_bs_gmpy.py 31415926535897932384626433832795028841971693993751058209749445923078164062862089986280348253421170679 ('chudnovsky_gmpy_mpz_bs: digits', 10, 'time', 1.0967254638671875e-05) ('chudnovsky_gmpy_mpz_bs: digits', 100, 'time', 3.0040740966796875e-05) Last 5 digits 70679 OK ('chudnovsky_gmpy_mpz_bs: digits', 1000, 'time', 0.00025582313537597656) Last 5 digits 01989 OK ('chudnovsky_gmpy_mpz_bs: digits', 10000, 'time', 0.00386810302734375) Last 5 digits 75678 OK ('chudnovsky_gmpy_mpz_bs: digits', 100000, 'time', 0.0834801197052002) Last 5 digits 24646 OK ('chudnovsky_gmpy_mpz_bs: digits', 1000000, 'time', 1.655979871749878) Last 5 digits 58151 OK ('chudnovsky_gmpy_mpz_bs: digits', 10000000, 'time', 30.67442488670349) Last 5 digits 55897 OK heine:~/programs/gambiteer/gambit> gsi chud1.scm Chudnovsky's algorithm using binary splitting in Gambit Scheme: digits 10, CPU time: 0.. Last 5 digits 26535. Chudnovsky's algorithm using binary splitting in Gambit Scheme: digits 100, CPU time: 0.. Last 5 digits 70679. Chudnovsky's algorithm using binary splitting in Gambit Scheme: digits 1000, CPU time: .004. Last 5 digits 1989. Chudnovsky's algorithm using binary splitting in Gambit Scheme: digits 10000, CPU time: .028. Last 5 digits 75678. Chudnovsky's algorithm using binary splitting in Gambit Scheme: digits 100000, CPU time: .472. Last 5 digits 24646. Chudnovsky's algorithm using binary splitting in Gambit Scheme: digits 1000000, CPU time: 6.448. Last 5 digits 58151. Chudnovsky's algorithm using binary splitting in Gambit Scheme: digits 10000000, CPU time: 98.612. Last 5 digits 55897. So it appears that for this algorithm applied to large integers, GMP's bignum routines are about 3-4 times as fast as Gambit's bignum routines. Not so bad. For smaller bignums, GMP has a bigger advantage. The C program gmp-chudnovsky.c includes certain optimizations to this basic algorithm: http://gmplib.org/pi-with-gmp.html ftp://ftp.gmplib.org/pub/misc/gmp-chudnovsky.c On my machine, compiled with gcc -O3 -march=native -o gmp-chudnovsky gmp-chudnovsky.c -lgmp -lm the CPU times for 1,000,000 and 10,000,000 digits are 1.064 and 18.200 seconds, respectively. This is with a somewhat older machine model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q8200 @ 2.33GHz running Ubuntu 13.04 with heine:~/programs/gambiteer/gambit> gcc -v Using built-in specs. COLLECT_GCC=gcc COLLECT_LTO_WRAPPER=/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.7/lto-wrapper Target: x86_64-linux-gnu Configured with: ../src/configure -v --with-pkgversion='Ubuntu/Linaro 4.7.3-1ubuntu1' --with-bugurl=file:///usr/share/doc/gcc-4.7/README.Bugs --enable-languages=c,c++,go,fortran,objc,obj-c++ --prefix=/usr --program-suffix=-4.7 --enable-shared --enable-linker-build-id --libexecdir=/usr/lib --without-included-gettext --enable-threads=posix --with-gxx-include-dir=/usr/include/c++/4.7 --libdir=/usr/lib --enable-nls --with-sysroot=/ --enable-clocale=gnu --enable-libstdcxx-debug --enable-libstdcxx-time=yes --enable-gnu-unique-object --enable-plugin --with-system-zlib --enable-objc-gc --with-cloog --enable-cloog-backend=ppl --disable-cloog-version-check --disable-ppl-version-check --enable-multiarch --disable-werror --with-arch-32=i686 --with-abi=m64 --with-multilib-list=m32,m64,mx32 --with-tune=generic --enable-checking=release --build=x86_64-linux-gnu --host=x86_64-linux-gnu --target=x86_64-linux-gnu Thread model: posix gcc version 4.7.3 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.7.3-1ubuntu1) heine:~/programs/gambiteer/gambit> gsi -v v4.6.9 20130607151908 x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu "./configure '--enable-single-host' '--enable-multiple-versions' '--enable-shared'" and the Ubuntu-provided GMP 5.0.5. (I'm sure the GMP folks have a better way to build GMP on my machine than the "generic" 64-bit version provided by Ubuntu.) Brad

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Voting on the Tangerine Edition of R7RS-large begins!
by John Cowan 16 Déc '18

16 Déc '18

Apologies to those who receive multiple copies of this posting. There are two ballots to vote on this time, the Tangerine Edition ballot, which decides what goes into R7RS-large, and the Orange Edition straw poll, which helps to decide what will go on the ballot for the future Orange Edition. Voting on both is open until the end of January. Please vote! Links to the ballots, which are Google Forms, will be sent to scheme-reports-wg2 ONLY. However, you can also reach the forms at at < https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1XQNvIzijmCxHgnaRq31u9MogloG0YWDaWKBs-J9CCTA> (Tangerine) and < https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1qn1Ut7tR5bzXyWOrxpbLu5O7rJJ5_m2HhAeG8YqfgG…> (Orange). You don't need a Google account. Let me know if anything goes wrong. Here are the detailed instructions for the Tangerine Edition ballot: This is a ballot to decide which SRFIs are to be included in the Tangerine (data structures and numerics) Edition of R7RS-large. This is the second of about 8 editions, so only certain topics are being voted on now. If you are seeing this ballot, you are a member of Working Group 2 provided you actually vote. However, if you have not voted on a Scheme ballot or ratification before, please send an email to scheme-reports-wg2(a)groups.google.com giving your name and a short explanation of your interest in Scheme. Choose "No vote" if you wish to abstain, which means that your vote on this question will not be counted. Note that if one person votes for alternative A, and two people for alternative B, and everyone else abstains, alternative B wins. That is because we are going by a majority of the legal votes cast for each ballot question. If no alternative achieves a majority, the question will be reballoted at a later date. Otherwise, choose "None" if you wish not to include a library of the type described in R7RS-large, or choose one of the SRFIs or R6RS according to the choices given. You can also choose "Other" for a write-in vote. There are also some yes/no questions on the ballot, for which the answers are "No vote", "No", and "Yes". If you want to revote, just vote again using the same name. Only the last vote is counted. The ballot closes at the last moment of Friday, February 1, 2019, in any time zone, which is equivalent to noon February 2 UTC. All ballots will be made public. If you object to using Google Forms (you do not need a Google account), post your ballot in an email to scheme-reports-wg2(a)groups.google.com. As an absolute fallback, send an email to cowan(a)ccil.org and I will post your vote for you. Ballots posted to other fora will be used if I see them, but are not formally supported. And here are the instructions for the Orange Edition straw poll: Please vote on the proposals you think should be considered for R7RS-large. This vote is not binding, but provides guidance to the editor about which pre-SRFI proposals should be converted into SRFIs and which should not. Ones that are already SRFIs or which have simple or existing implementations are excluded. There are four options in all cases: "No vote", "No", "Yes", and "Volunteer"; the last means that you are volunteering to write the implementation. -- John Cowan http://vrici.lojban.org/~cowan cowan(a)ccil.org weirdo: When is R7RS coming out? Riastradh: As soon as the top is a beautiful golden brown and if you stick a toothpick in it, the toothpick comes out dry.

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Updated fork of SRFI 122, Nonempty Intervals and Generalized Arrays
by Bradley Lucier 04 Déc '18

04 Déc '18

I maintain a fork of SRFI 122 https://github.com/gambiteer/srfi-122/ where I've added a few things that were not in the finalized SRFI, specifically the routines interval-cartesian-product array-outer-product array-assign! I continue to think about arrays and how to use them. I'd like to get various implementations and applications of SRFI-122 available (beyond what I use it for) and when it looks like I don't have anything more to add I might propose an updated SRFI with the new routines. In that vein, if anyone would like assistance to modify SRFI-122 to run in their favorite scheme, or to use SRFI-122 in support of their application, I'd be glad to help. Brad

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Porting Gambit
by Paul Wolneykien 30 Nov '18

30 Nov '18

Hi! Tell me please, is it really hard to port Gambit to another platform (CPU)? Is there any platform-specific code? Currently, when I'm trying to build the vanilla sources from github.com/gambit/gambit.git , it segfaults at the gsc/ part. The gsi and gsc-boot are built, but they seems to be unusable: both segfaults instantly. The arch I'm trying to build for is E2K (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elbrus_2000).

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.git in tarballs
by Faré 21 Nov '18

21 Nov '18

Is it on purpose that the http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~gambit/download/gambit/v4.9/source/gambit-v4_9… image contains the .git directory with the entire history? The lib/makefile.in later detects the presence of .git and uses the git binary, adding one dependency to the build, in addition to making the tarball bigger. —♯ƒ • François-René ÐVB Rideau •Reflection&Cybernethics• http://fare.tunes.org The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. — Mark Twain

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Gerbil v0.14 is out!
by Dimitris Vyzovitis 19 Nov '18

19 Nov '18

Hi all, I am happy to announce the release of Gerbil v0.13, to go with Gambit v4.9.1. The main new feature of this release is Protobuf support in the standard library. See https://cons.io/reference/protobuf.html for documentation. As usual, for sources and downloads: https://github.com/vyzo/gerbil https://github.com/vyzo/gerbil/releases Full release changelog: https://github.com/vyzo/gerbil/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md For questions and support, come say hi on #gerbil-scheme in irc.freenode.net . Happy Hacking! -- vyzo

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[ANN] Gambit v4.9.1 released
by gambit＠arcade08.iro.umontreal.ca 16 Nov '18

16 Nov '18

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Patch for SRFI 122 implementation: fixes bug in array-{every, any}
by Bradley Lucier 16 Nov '18

16 Nov '18

Arthur: I'm including here a patch for a bug in the implementation of array-every and array-any in SRFI 122. Perhaps you can apply it as is (I don't want to make a new fork of srfi-122 just to suggest this fix). You can see the fix to macro-make-predicates in context here: https://github.com/gambiteer/srfi-122/blob/master/generic-arrays.scm Thanks. Brad

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First Call for Papers: PACMPL issue ICFP 2019
by Sam Tobin-Hochstadt 08 Nov '18

08 Nov '18

PACMPL Volume 3, Issue ICFP 2019 Call for Papers accepted papers to be invited for presentation at The 24th ACM SIGPLAN International Conference on Functional Programming Berlin, Germany http://icfp19.sigplan.org/ ### Important dates Submissions due: 1 March 2019 (Friday) Anywhere on Earth https://icfp19.hotcrp.com Author response: 16 April (Tuesday) - 18 Apri (Friday) 14:00 UTC Notification: 3 May (Friday) Final copy due: 22 June (Saturday) Conference: 18 August (Sunday) - 23 August (Friday) ### About PACMPL Proceedings of the ACM on Programming Languages (PACMPL <https://pacmpl.acm.org/>) is a Gold Open Access journal publishing research on all aspects of programming languages, from design to implementation and from mathematical formalisms to empirical studies. Each issue of the journal is devoted to a particular subject area within programming languages and will be announced through publicized Calls for Papers, like this one. ### Scope [PACMPL](https://pacmpl.acm.org/) issue ICFP 2019 seeks original papers on the art and science of functional programming. Submissions are invited on all topics from principles to practice, from foundations to features, and from abstraction to application. The scope includes all languages that encourage functional programming, including both purely applicative and imperative languages, as well as languages with objects, concurrency, or parallelism. 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Submissions will be evaluated according to their relevance, correctness, significance, originality, and clarity. Each submission should explain its contributions in both general and technical terms, clearly identifying what has been accomplished, explaining why it is significant, and comparing it with previous work. The technical content should be accessible to a broad audience. PACMPL issue ICFP 2019 also welcomes submissions in two separate categories — Functional Pearls and Experience Reports — that must be marked as such at the time of submission and that need not report original research results. Detailed guidelines on both categories are given at the end of this call. Please contact the principal editor if you have questions or are concerned about the appropriateness of a topic. ### Preparation of submissions **Deadline**: The deadline for submissions is **Friday, March 1, 2019**, Anywhere on Earth (<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anywhere_on_Earth>). 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Participation in Artifact Evaluation is voluntary and will not influence the final decision regarding paper acceptance. ### Special categories of papers In addition to research papers, PACMPL issue ICFP solicits two kinds of papers that do not require original research contributions: Functional Pearls, which are full papers, and Experience Reports, which are limited to half the length of a full paper. Authors submitting such papers should consider the following guidelines. #### Functional Pearls A Functional Pearl is an elegant essay about something related to functional programming. Examples include, but are not limited to: * a new and thought-provoking way of looking at an old idea * an instructive example of program calculation or proof * a nifty presentation of an old or new data structure * an interesting application of functional programming techniques * a novel use or exposition of functional programming in the classroom While pearls often demonstrate an idea through the development of a short program, there is no requirement or expectation that they do so. Thus, they encompass the notions of theoretical and educational pearls. Functional Pearls are valued as highly and judged as rigorously as ordinary papers, but using somewhat different criteria. In particular, a pearl is not required to report original research, but, it should be concise, instructive, and entertaining. A pearl is likely to be rejected if its readers get bored, if the material gets too complicated, if too much specialized knowledge is needed, or if the writing is inelegant. The key to writing a good pearl is polishing. A submission that is intended to be treated as a pearl must be marked as such on the submission web page, and should contain the words "Functional Pearl" somewhere in its title or subtitle. These steps will alert reviewers to use the appropriate evaluation criteria. Pearls will be combined with ordinary papers, however, for the purpose of computing the conference's acceptance rate. <a name="experience-reports"></a> #### Experience Reports The purpose of an Experience Report is to help create a body of published, refereed, citable evidence that functional programming really works — or to describe what obstacles prevent it from working. Possible topics for an Experience Report include, but are not limited to: * insights gained from real-world projects using functional programming * comparison of functional programming with conventional programming in the context of an industrial project or a university curriculum * project-management, business, or legal issues encountered when using functional programming in a real-world project * curricular issues encountered when using functional programming in education * real-world constraints that created special challenges for an implementation of a functional language or for functional programming in general An Experience Report is distinguished from a normal PACMPL issue ICFP paper by its title, by its length, and by the criteria used to evaluate it. * Both in the papers and in any citations, the title of each accepted Experience Report must end with the words "(Experience Report)" in parentheses. The acceptance rate for Experience Reports will be computed and reported separately from the rate for ordinary papers. * Experience Report submissions can be at most 12 pages long, excluding bibliography. * Each accepted Experience Report will be presented at the conference, but depending on the number of Experience Reports and regular papers accepted, authors of Experience reports may be asked to give shorter talks. * Because the purpose of Experience Reports is to enable our community to accumulate a body of evidence about the efficacy of functional programming, an acceptable Experience Report need not add to the body of knowledge of the functional-programming community by presenting novel results or conclusions. It is sufficient if the Report states a clear thesis and provides supporting evidence. The thesis must be relevant to ICFP, but it need not be novel. The review committee will accept or reject Experience Reports based on whether they judge the evidence to be convincing. Anecdotal evidence will be acceptable provided it is well argued and the author explains what efforts were made to gather as much evidence as possible. Typically, more convincing evidence is obtained from papers which show how functional programming was used than from papers which only say that functional programming was used. The most convincing evidence often includes comparisons of situations before and after the introduction or discontinuation of functional programming. Evidence drawn from a single person's experience may be sufficient, but more weight will be given to evidence drawn from the experience of groups of people. An Experience Report should be short and to the point: it should make a claim about how well functional programming worked on a particular project and why, and produce evidence to substantiate this claim. If functional programming worked in this case in the same ways it has worked for others, the paper need only summarize the results — the main part of the paper should discuss how well it worked and in what context. Most readers will not want to know all the details of the project and its implementation, but the paper should characterize the project and its context well enough so that readers can judge to what degree this experience is relevant to their own projects. The paper should take care to highlight any unusual aspects of the project. Specifics about the project are more valuable than generalities about functional programming; for example, it is more valuable to say that the team delivered its software a month ahead of schedule than it is to say that functional programming made the team more productive. If the paper not only describes experience but also presents new technical results, or if the experience refutes cherished beliefs of the functional-programming community, it may be better to submit it as a full paper, which will be judged by the usual criteria of novelty, originality, and relevance. The principal editor will be happy to advise on any concerns about which category to submit to. ### ICFP Organizers General Chair: Derek Dreyer (MPI-SWS, Germany) Artifact Evaluation Co-Chairs: Simon Marlow (Facebook, UK) Industrial Relations Chair: Alan Jeffrey (Mozilla Research, USA) Programming Contest Organiser: Ilya Sergey (Yale-NUS College, Singapore) Publicity and Web Chair: Sam Tobin-Hochstadt (Indiana University, USA) Student Research Competition Chair: William J. Bowman (University of British Columbia, Canada) Workshops Co-Chair: Christophe Scholliers (Universiteit Gent, Belgium) Jennifer Hackett (University of Nottingham, UK) Conference Manager: Annabel Satin (P.C.K.) ### PACMPL Volume 3, Issue ICFP 2019 Principal Editor: François Pottier (Inria, France) Review Committee: Lennart Beringer (Princeton University, United States) Joachim Breitner (DFINITY Foundation, Germany) Laura M. Castro (University of A Coruña, Spain) Ezgi Çiçek (Facebook London, United Kingdom) Pierre-Evariste Dagand (LIP6/CNRS, France) Christos Dimoulas (Northwestern University, United States) Jacques-Henri Jourdan (CNRS, LRI, Université Paris-Sud, France) Andrew Kennedy (Facebook London, United Kingdom) Daan Leijen (Microsoft Research, United States) Kazutaka Matsuda (Tohoku University, Japan) Bruno C. d. S. 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Marc, (not interrupts-enabled) ramifications and safe practices? Also (not safe)
by Adam 08 Nov '18

08 Nov '18

Hi Marc! Can you please explain the ramifications of (declare (not interrupts-enabled))? The effect of (not interrupts-enabled) that I have been aware of, is that it disables thread switches in the green thread scheduling. With respect to green thread switching, the same effect as removing the interrupt sugar, can be achieved by setting the current green thread's quantum to infinity. This can be done by (thread-quantum-set! (current-thread) +inf.0) or even better (##enable-interrupts), and is discussed at http://gambitscheme.org/wiki/index.php/Using_Gambit_with_External_Libraries… and also further below in this email. An example of when you want to disable green thread switches, would be when you have Scheme code that calls C that then calls Scheme, meaning you have a C stack frame in the stack - Gambit requires the user to rewind C stack frames in exact reverse order or the program will get into an undefined state right, and so creating a clean-room environment for guaranteeing that by disabling thread switching, makes all sense in the world. Reading the https://github.com/gambit/gambit/commit/674ddff913cdfb7b3e73c6f78f3f0345219… commit, where you fixed a stack overflow bug by changing a (define (p) (declare (not interrupts-enabled)) ... (let () ... result)) to (define (p) (declare (not interrupts-enabled)) ... (let () ... (let () (declare (interrupts-enabled) result))) , I'm realizing that there may be more ramifications to (not interrupts-enabled) namely that as a performance measure Gambit has delegated some Scheme stack frame (aka msection) management logics to the interrupt handler. Is this so? If so, what are safe coding practices relating to (not interrupts-enabled)? Can a user ever have a reason to use it? Is it actually a dangerous option that shouldn't be used by normal users?? The question "how much memory is available in an msection so that I can write code that won't overflow it" is mostly irrelevant as the user *not* can manage msection location anyhow e.g. there's no ##flush-msection-give-me-a-new-fresh-one! , right? Can you direct me to where in the code the interrupt code sugar is located (e.g. in standard library or in the compiler code)? Brad mentioned that none of the code in _num that has (not interrupts-enabled) "not does any allocations whatsoever". Apart from the interrupts-enabled declare, two procedures are available called (##disable-interrupts) and (##enable-interrupts) / ___EXT(___disable_interrupts)() and ___EXT(___enable_interrupts)(). While their names overlap with the declare, these are actually functionally separate altogether from the declare, and have the effect of (thread-quantum-set! (current-thread) +inf.0) and resetting the green thread quantum back to its previous value, right? Meanwhile, (not safe) only has the effect of skipping production of type checks on variable accesses and it has no other effects than that, right? Thanks, Adam

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