[gambit-list] Fw: Re: Gambit-C Version needs updating

Mikael mikael.rcv at gmail.com
Thu Feb 19 04:22:35 EST 2015


Jackson, thanks for your response - wait, here, what's "writers"?

So by "old Packaging" you mean that since the days of the 4.2.8 package,
Ubuntu changed packaging system?

Thanks!


2015-02-19 14:27 GMT+05:30 Jackson Doak <noskcaj at ubuntu.com>:

> I said it was difficult because of the old Packaging being writers. It
> might not be an issue anymore
> On 19 Feb 2015 19:54, "Mikael" <mikael.rcv at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Duke and maybe Jackson,
>>
>> So https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=677709 says
>> Ubuntu/Debian has had Gambit split up in four packages: gambc, libgambc4,
>> libgambc4-dev, gambc-doc .
>>
>> I don't see why this would be a low-demand package, except that for the
>> reason that compiling it is so simple there's little to no reason to do it
>> yourself :)
>>
>> I essentially don't see why not exactly the same
>> http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~gambit/download/gambit/v4.*/source/gambc-v4_*-devel.tgz
>> <http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~gambit/download/gambit/v4.7/source/gambc-v4_7_0-devel.tgz>
>> => Ubuntu package script as used with 4.2.8 wouldn't work with 4.7.0.
>>
>> Was this done manually from scratch for each package update by the former
>> maintainer and he left with the knowledge?
>>
>>
>>
>> Since 4.2.8, nothing changed in how Gambit is linked or built, and
>> essentially nothing changed with regard to configure script arguments.
>>
>> Historically there was one single potential issue, which was that Gambit
>> doesn't work smoothly with some GCC versions in the 4.2 and 4.3 series,
>> though with all >= 4.6 all is fine, and I guess that's what Ubuntu uses
>> nowadays anyhow, anyhow so consideration was needed on that point.
>>
>> Anyhow to sum up from my end, my five cents to this conversation is that
>> supposedly the packaging task is trivial.
>>
>> Mikael
>>
>>
>> 2015-02-19 5:12 GMT+05:30 Duke Normandin <dukeofperl at ml1.net>:
>>
>>> > Would you mind emailing him and asking?
>>> >
>>> > The only thing I can see would be if Gambit wouldn't be nice with
>>> > the OS' bundled GCC version.
>>>
>>> Could do!!
>>>
>>> But I'm thinking that they don't want to go through the
>>> bother of putting a "package" together for software experiencing
>>> very little demand (in their mind).
>>>
>>> --
>>> Duke
>>> ><>
>>>
>>
>>
>> 2015-02-19 5:21 GMT+05:30 Duke Normandin <dukeofperl at ml1.net>:
>>
>>> > Would you mind emailing him and asking?
>>>
>>> I just sent Jackson Doak of Ubuntu an email asking him if they
>>> would maintain the Gambit-C package, or whether the "maintainer"
>>> has to originate from the Gambit-C community.
>>> --
>>> Duke
>>> ><>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2015-02-19 8:14 GMT+05:30 Duke Normandin <dukeofperl at ml1.net>:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>
>>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 13:38:04 +1100
>>> From: Jackson Doak <noskcaj at ubuntu.com>
>>> To: Duke Normandin <dukeofperl at ml1.net>
>>> Subject: Re: Back with that Gambit-C issue
>>>
>>>
>>> The maintainer can be from anywhere. The old packaging required the
>>> compile to be run twice, but i'm not sure if that's still needed.
>>> It's just a case of finding someone with the time.
>>> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=677709 and
>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gambc/+bug/422034 are the
>>> bugs asking for adoption
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Duke Normandin
>>> <dukeofperl at ml1.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hey Jackson ...
>>> >
>>> > The Gambit gurus are telling me that the software compiles with
>>> > zero issues (for someone that knows what their doing I suppose).
>>> >
>>> > Would that fact be enough to convince somebody at Ubuntu to
>>> > maintain Gambit-C?  Or does the maintainer *have* to come from the
>>> > Gambit-C community?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Duke
>>> ><>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2015-02-19 8:14 GMT+05:30 Duke Normandin <dukeofperl at ml1.net>:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>
>>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 13:38:04 +1100
>>> From: Jackson Doak <noskcaj at ubuntu.com>
>>> To: Duke Normandin <dukeofperl at ml1.net>
>>> Subject: Re: Back with that Gambit-C issue
>>>
>>>
>>> The maintainer can be from anywhere. The old packaging required the
>>> compile to be run twice, but i'm not sure if that's still needed.
>>> It's just a case of finding someone with the time.
>>> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=677709 and
>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gambc/+bug/422034 are the
>>> bugs asking for adoption
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Duke Normandin
>>> <dukeofperl at ml1.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hey Jackson ...
>>> >
>>> > The Gambit gurus are telling me that the software compiles with
>>> > zero issues (for someone that knows what their doing I suppose).
>>> >
>>> > Would that fact be enough to convince somebody at Ubuntu to
>>> > maintain Gambit-C?  Or does the maintainer *have* to come from the
>>> > Gambit-C community?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Duke
>>> ><>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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