On 11/2/07, Marijn Schouten (hkBst) <hkBst@gentoo.org> wrote:
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Rouan van Dalen wrote:

> Ok so on to the scheme community's new web framework : "Scheme on Skis" (thanks Marc).

I have the impression that hop <http://hop.inria.fr/> can do a lot of what you
want.

How incompatible are Gambit and Bigloo? Is there any chance of porting Hop to
Gambit?
 
At the MSLUG meeting organized during the OOPSLA 2007 I asked Manuel Serano that exact same question and the answer was :
 
"Don't even think about it! There are alot of bigloo specific stuff in Hop"
 
I find it hard to believe any Scheme code could be that hard to port to Gambit but that was his answer.
 
On a personal note, I loved the Hop code I saw as it seemed (first impressions) to make web development really clean and mostly Scheme based. The one thing I didn't like about Hop is that instead of hooking a high-level API into the new emerging rich-application Javascript frameworks like ExtJS, it redoes all the job itself. I haven't looked at Hop's source code, but I'd guess the rich-application javascript side must be a *big* part of the framework and as a web developer I want to be able to use any kick-ass rich-application API I want.
 
PS: Personally I *love* Marc's new Scheme on skis name but I think we should find some other nice and short name. Using the same blabla on blabla name as Rails is not a good to start showing how original Scheme is!
 
Regards,
 
Guillaume